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冯小刚:温故知幸福(双语版)

冯小刚:温故知幸福(双语版)

作者: 飞翔DE荷兰人 | 来源:发表于2017-06-11 22:27 被阅读0次

    Dear students, hello:

    特别高兴能有机会到这来跟大家有一个面对面的一个交流。其实要说的话非常多,但是我还是想说说,是什么时候开始动了拍《温故1942》这个电影的念头。

    Very glad to have the opportunity to come here to have a face-to-face on an exchange. In fact, very much to say, but I still want to talk about, is what the beginning on the 1942 "温故" this movie.

    大概是在1993年,在一个阳光明媚的一个下午,王朔从他的客房穿过堂屋,走到我这个客房来,就扔给我一个小说。这个小说是刘震云写的《温故1942》,我就一口气把这个小说看完了,非常地受到触动。这个小说里写了1942年发生在河南的一场灾荒,大概有三千多万河南人向陕西逃荒,途中有三百万人饿死了。但是我非常吃惊就是,在看他的这个小说之前我完全不了解有这么一场灾难。当刘震云要写这个小说的时候,去采访那些幸存的当事人的时候,大家也都说记不清了。是不是我们是善于忘记的一个民族,还是说我们这个民族遭遇的苦难实在太多了?所以我想,拍这个电影的意义其实挺大的,一个是让我们大家了解河南发生,我们中国历史上一个大的悲剧,另外一个通过这个电影,也想一想为什么会发生这样的悲剧,以后还会不会发生。

    It was in 1993, on an afternoon of a sunny, Wang Shuo across the room from his room, go to my room, he threw me a novel. This novel was written by Liu Zhenyun "warm 1942", I was relieved to read this novel, very touched. This novel is written in a famine that occurred in 1942 in Henan, about about thirty million people in Henan to Shaanxi to flee, they will have three million people starved to death. But I am very surprised, I don't know there is such a disaster before reading his novels. When Liu Zhenyun wrote the novel, to interview the surviving party time, everybody also said can't remember. Is it right? We are one people good at forgotten, or that our nation has suffered too much? So I thought, this movie meaning actually is quite big, one is let us know Henan, a big tragedy we Chinese history, another through this film, also think about why such a tragedy, it will not happen.

    所以,温故而知新,我觉得非常的重要。这个电影就像一个镜子一样,照见了我们自己。你看我长得是挺寒碜一个人,因为有镜子,所以我知道我长得寒碜。倘若没有这镜子,我可能会把自己想象得特英俊,特别的器宇轩昂。但是当你照到镜子的时候,你发现跟你想的不一样。我觉得尽管我看到这一切的时候会很不舒服,但是比我不知道要强一点。所以《一九四二》也是照见了我们的民族性里的一部分不堪。虽然我觉得我们的民族肯定是在世界民族之林是优秀的,否则的话我们也不可能走到今天。

    So, again, I think is very important. This movie is just like a mirror, on our own. You see I have is quite ugly one, because there is a mirror, so I know I'm ugly. Without the mirror, I could imagine ourselves very handsome, very One's deportment is dignified. But when you look in the mirror when you found, that's not what you think. I think I saw it all the time will be very uncomfortable, but I don't know a little stronger. So the "one nine four two" is also picked out a part of our identity in. Although I think that our nation is certainly among the nations of the world is good, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

    我不是一个特别有责任感的人,但是因为被刘震云的这个小说击中了我的内心,于是我跟震云说,能不能把它拍成电影。刘震云说不着急,再等一等。我觉得他说不着急再等一等,并不是他不想把它拍成一电影,他肯定是对我不信任。因为那个时候我还没有拍过任何一部电影。时间到2000年的时候,元旦过年中的一个晚上,震云找到我,我们俩包的饺子,喝了一顿大酒,然后他开始跟我说,兄长我今天找你来是想把《一九四二》这孩子托付给你。我听后特别特别兴奋,于是我们就找了很多的专家、很多的导演来讨论。大家有一个共识——这个小说是一个非常好的小说,但是它非常不适合改成电影,因为这个小说既没有故事也没有具体的人物,也没有情节。大家散去,我就跟震云蹲在我那工作室外头的树荫底下,我就问他:怎么办?震云问我你还想干不想干,我说想干。接着震云跟我说,我觉得把一个可能的事变成可能的工作,很多人都在做,只有很少的人在做的事,是把不可能变成可能,但是把不可能变成可能是非常有意义的一件事。

    I am not a special person who has sense of responsibility, but because the fiction of Liu Zhenyun hit me, so I told the earthquake cloud said, can turn it into a movie. Liu Zhenyun said not to worry, wait. I think what he said is not anxious to wait, is not he doesn't want to make it into a movie, he is certainly not to trust me. Because at that time I haven't taken any movie. Time to 2000 when, a night of new year's day have the Spring Festival earthquake cloud, I find, we made dumplings, drank a big wine, then he said to me, brother, I find you to want to "one nine four two" this child to you. I especially excited, so we can find a lot of experts, many directors to discuss. We have a consensus -- the novel is a very good novel, but it is not suitable to a film, because the novel is no story, no specific figures, there is no plot. Everyone dispersed, I squatted in my studio outside of the tree with earthquake cloud, I ask him: how to do? Earthquake cloud asked me if you still want to do or not to do, I said. Then the earthquake cloud said to me, I think that one might happen that might work, many people are doing, only a few people do, is to make the impossible possible, but not become possible is a very meaningful thing.

    怎么把不可能变成可能?肯定是非常难的。有两种方法,一种是聪明人,很聪明的编剧,首先要知道我写这个剧本,我不要走弯路,我不能绕远,不做无用功。还有一种编剧,是笨人,用的是最笨的方法,他是在路上走出来的,就是说他不知道哪条路是他要走的路。怎么办呢?把每条路都走一遍,这种编剧很笨,做了很多的无用功,但是有一条就是他真的找到了。他是因为发现,他走了很多的冤枉路,然后他发现这条路是我要走的。我跟震云说,我说咱们俩肯定是那笨的人,所以咱们得选择笨的方法。震云说好,我就等你这句话。

    How to make the impossible possible? It is very difficult. There are two ways, one is the smart people, smart screenwriter, first you should know I wrote the script, I not detours, I can't go, not made useless. There is also a screenwriter, stupid, use is the most stupid way, he was out on the road, it is said that he didn't know which way is the way it goes. What shall I do? Every path, this writer is stupid, do a lot of is futile, but one that he really found. Because he is found, he went to a lot of the way, then he found this is the way I go. I told the earthquake cloud said, I said we're sure is that stupid people, so we have to choose. zhenyun said, I will wait for you this sentence.

    我们工作室六个人一起上路,我们走了几个月,我们首先沿着小说的这个线索,河南、重庆、开罗,经过几个月的采访、摸索,这个剧本就浮现出来了。这个剧本几起几落,都没有拍成,我光成立摄制组就成立了三次,大张旗鼓地选景、找演员,最后几次折腾下来,我开始意识到,可能在我的有生之年没有机会,或者说在我能够有创作精力、有这样的冲动的时候、有这样的体力的时候,可能没有机会把这个小说拍成电影了。这期间我拍了很多其它的电影,在这个过程中,因为想拍的东西一直没办法拍,所以我可以全心全意地走一个商业片的道路,然后把这条道走得很通。这是一条什么路呢?就是充分尊重观众。然后让我自己也觉得好玩,也有意思,我觉得也不恶心。就是这样一些片子形成了一个很高的人气。对我来说,就是所谓的大家说的品牌。这个品牌是什么呢?就是观众对我的电影有个基本的信任,而刚好在这种影响力、力量最大的时候,终于在2010年又贼心不死地把《温故1942》的剧本放到案头上。之所以在拍摄《一九四二》这条路上这么坎坷,有这么多阻力,这么不顺,其实是因为你没准备好。这是一好东西,你想干可以,你要做一个很好的准备。可能到2010年的时候,觉得你准备的差不多了,可以拍了,所以这电影就拍出来了。

    Our studio six people together on the road, we go a few months, we first along this clue novels, Henan, Chongqing, Cairo, after several months of interviews, exploration, this script will emerge. The script several ups and downs, all has not finished, I light up crew set up three times, put up a pageantry chose the scenery, looking for actors, last toss down, I began to realize that, there may be no chance at me the rest of one's life, or when I can have the creative energy, so when the impulse, this manual, may not have the chance to put the novel into a movie. During this period, I took many other films, in this process, because want to take things always can't shoot, so I can put one's heart and soul into walk a commercial road, then take the road very. This is a what road? Full respect for the audience. Then let me feel funny, funny, I didn't feel sick. This is some of the film formed a very high popularity. For me, is the so-called "we said that the brand. What is the brand? The audience is the movie have a basic trust, and just under the influence, the biggest power, finally in 2010 and the "温故" zeixinbusi 1942 script on the desk. During the filming of "the one nine four two" this road so bumpy, there is so much resistance, so is not smooth, but because you are not ready. This is a good stuff, you want to do, you want to make a good preparation. May to 2010 when, think you are almost ready, can shoot, so this film shot out.

    《一九四二》我觉得是我们在所有的中国电影,向着一个商业大潮洪流裹挟着冲过去的时候,我们突然独树一帜地杀了一个回马枪,这个叫大清新。有个词叫小清新,我觉得《一九四二》是大清新。我们就是想做别人不敢做的那些事,我觉得没关系,对于我个人来说,我觉得我出名、得利,我名利早就双收了。名利双收了有两种情况:一种是我就享受所有这些名利带来的好处,还有一种就是我就敢于把这些东西压上去,去做我非常想做的那件事。也许我挥霍了观众这么多年来,我积累起来的对我的信任。在《一九四二》这部电影上,但是我认为,我更相信是由于《一九四二》我又建立起来了更大的一个信任。

    "One nine four two" I think we all China film, toward a commercial tide torrent carried through time, we suddenly become an independent school to kill a Parthian shot, this is called the big fresh. There is a word called small fresh, I feel that "one nine four two" is fresh. The things we wanted to do what others can't do, I think never mind, for me personally, I think I became famous, enrichment, I fame had double the. Gain both fame and wealth have two situations: one is I will enjoy all the benefits of the fame and fortune, and one I dare to put these things up, that thing to do I really want to do. Maybe I squandered the audience for so many years, I accumulated to trust me. In the "one nine four two" this movie, but I think, I believe that is because of "one nine four two" and I set up a trust more.

    我发现尤其是年轻的观众,他们看完这个电影之后,有一个特别强烈的感受,就是走出电影院的时候,突然意识到自己很幸福。你看完这个电影你会知道,如果你生在1942年的河南,你真的是叫生不逢时。你会觉得在今天,你怎么想你遇到的所有的挫折,你都不会想我给饿死了。跟饿死了相比,咱们目前的这些挫折、这些的不幸,其实都不在话下。张国立他说演完了这个戏,他有一个特别大的体会,就是饥饿和人的尊严。这种关系,经常我们听到一句话叫:不为五斗米折腰。是不是咱们经常说,一个人特别有气节,不为五斗米折腰。我拍完《一九四二》,我就有这么一个感觉,不为五斗米折腰的这些人,他一定是家里头搁着有五斗米,或者十斗米,或者十旦米,他是不为你给他这五斗米折腰。如果家里老婆孩子嗷嗷待哺,你弄不会这口吃的去,年迈的父母、妻儿老小,全都得饿死,我就真的不相信他不折腰,一斗米什么事都能干,只要为了能活下去。贫穷使人变得更加的自私,目光短浅,因为他看不到远处,他只能看钱。我怎么能够活下去,怎么能够凑合地活下去。在1942年,什么是尊严?尊严就是肚皮。所以到今天国家开始,变得富强一些了,你才可以讨论有没有尊严这件事。所以我也希望大家,我这个也不是说唱一高调,应该通过看这个电影你知道,你能够活在今天,你是很幸福的。

    I found especially in young people, after they finished the film, with a particularly strong feeling, it is out of the cinema, suddenly aware of the very happy. You'll know that you, if you was born in Henan in 1942, you really are called Born Under A Bad Sign. You will feel today, what do you think of all the setbacks you encounter, you don't want me to die. Compared with starved to death, we present these setbacks, these unfortunate, in fact be nothing difficult. Guoli Zhang said after the show, he had a great experience, hunger and human dignity. This relationship, we often hear a word called: do not yield. Is it right? We often say, a person in particular has integrity, do not yield. I finished "one nine four two", I would have such a feeling, not for these people bow to reality, he must be home resting there are five, or ten bucket meter, or ten Dan meters, he is not for you to give him this handout. If the home wife and children cry piteously for food, you can not this stuttering, elderly parents, a married man's entire family, all have to starve to death, I don't really believe that he did not bow, a bag of rice what things do, just in order to survive. Poverty makes people more selfish, short-sighted, because he does not look into the distance, he can only see the money. How can I live, how can do to live. In 1942, what is dignity? Dignity is the belly. So today the country began to become prosperous, some, you can discuss this matter with no dignity. So I hope everyone, I this is not a high-profile, should look through this movie you know, you can live in today, you are very happy.

    最后我也想把我们电影开始的那段旁白用河南话跟大家说说: “1942年冬到1944年春,因为一场旱灾,我的故乡河南发生了吃的问题。”与此同时,世界上还发生着这样一些事,斯大林格勒战役、甘地绝食、宋美龄访美和丘吉尔感冒,谢谢。

    Finally, I want to put that aside we film began to use the Henan words tell us about: "the winter of 1942 to the spring of 1944, because of a drought, had eating issues in my hometown Henan." At the same time, the world also has this thing, the battle of Stalingrad, Gandhi, Song Meiling and Churchill visit a hunger strike, thank you

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