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巴夏談「民主」和「共和」政治體制的差別

巴夏談「民主」和「共和」政治體制的差別

作者: 沉底的蝎子 | 来源:发表于2020-07-09 21:53 被阅读0次

    See the difference between Democracy and Republic

    影片摘自:2007-A Matter of Faith Intensive

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    中文翻譯:Jimmy

    此篇內容(*注:B=巴夏,A=听众):

    B:Are you still exploring democracy?

    你仍在研究「民主政治」嗎?

    A:Absolutely.

    當然。

    B:Did you find the difference between Democracy and Republic?

    那你是否發現「民主」和「共和」這兩種政治體制之間的不同?

    A:No. Not as of yet.

    沒有,到目前為止還沒有。

    B:Shall I help?

    需要我幫忙嗎?

    A:Please.

    勞煩您了。

    B:A Democracy is that which allows for an unlimited majority to rule, but absolutely provides no basis for the protection of individual or minority rights.

    「民主」是一種「讓絕對多數裁決(以「多數決」為規則)」的制度,但完全沒有提供個人或少數族群基本權利上的保障。

    A Republic allows there to be a democratic process of voting, but through the Constitution imposes controls on the majority to allow for individual and minority rights.

    「共和」制度保有民主投票(表決)的過程,但它透過(國家所制定的)憲法來控制多數族群,以讓(顧及)個人和少數族群的權利能被重視。

    Now which do you prefer?

    現在,你比較喜歡哪一個?

    A:Honestly, I think I prefer true democracy.

    老實說,我比較喜歡真正的民主。

    B:I have just told you the difference.

    我剛才已告訴你其中的差別了。

    A:Right.

    好的。

    B:So you are saying that you are in favor of an unlimited majority with absolutely no regard for individual or minority rights.

    所以你剛才是說,你比較喜歡一種有利於「完全不重視個人或少數族群權利」的絕對多數票決制度嘍?

    A:Yes.

    是的。

    B:Why?

    為什麼?

    A:Because the will of the people should be the will of the planet.

    因為人民(多數民眾)的意志,應該就是地球的意志。

    B:But you see the idea is the will of the people are expressed in the Constitution, not in the majority system.

    但你們都知道這概念是:人民的意志是「明文陳述在國家的憲法」上,並非以「多數決的投票制度」來表示的。(即:憲法表達著一個民主國家「人民的意志」。)

    A:Well… if the Constitution would have help, then that might make sense..

    這個嘛…如果「憲法」已有幫助(有被多數人重視)的話,這你說的就有道理…

    B:-That's the key…

    -這正是關鍵…

    A:But since the Constitution are held under the Republic…

    但是因為國會是掌控在共和黨…..

    B:-That's the key.

    -那正是關鍵所在。

    A:Then the Republic isn't working.

    因而造成「共和制度」並沒有發揮作用。

    B:No. The Republic doesn't work when it is replaced by a pure majority democracy. And that is what is happening.

    不。當「共和制度」被一種純粹多數決的民主取代時,它才會無法(發揮功能)有效地運作。而這正是你們社會在發生的情況。

    A:No, because if we were… if our system were working as a democracy, the situations that were in right now, we wouldn't be in. Because it's not the will of the majority.

    不,因為如果我們是那樣的話…,如果我們真的以一種民主制度在運作的話,我們就不會陷入現在的情況。 因為現在這情況不是多數民眾的意志。

    B:The situation however that you are missing is that the structure, the form of government, called “Democracy” is what allows for the continuation of what you don't want.

    然而關於這情況,你們沒有注意到(正缺漏)的是它運作的結構,也就是你們稱為「民主」的政府體制形式,正是這運作體制使得那些「你們不想看到的情況」持續不斷在發生。

    The form of government called the “Republic” is the only way to bring to light how the Republic has been misrepresented.

    你們稱為「共和」的政府體制形式,是唯一可以揭露「共和制度已如何被扭曲誤傳」的方式。

    A:Okay.

    好的。

    B:You cannot, as your Einstein said, solve the problem from the same level in which the problem was created.

    如你們的愛因斯坦所說的:你無法以「和問題被製造出來相同的」思維層次,來解決問題。(明白「共和制度如何被扭曲誤傳」,才能跨出製造出該問題的思維層次,有效解決問題。)

    A:That makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels to me right now. It really doesn't truly…

    現在你這解說在許多層面上對我來說,就蠻有道理了。它真的並沒有…

    B:Do a little more of your own research. And you will see that just because there may be corruption in a Republic that allows there to be a misrepresentation doesn't mean that you abandon the idea itself .

    多做一點屬於你自己的探索研究,你就會明白:只因為共和制度可能有貪腐就讓它被扭曲誤傳,並不表示你們要放棄這制度。

    It simply means that you need to educate people to go back to it, which a democracy will not allow you to do.

    它只是表示:你們需要教育民眾去重新研究「共和制度」的結構運作——那是一種「民主制度」不會允許你們那樣運作的機制。(民主制度只以選票多寡做裁決)

    So do some more research. You will see.

    再去做些研究調查吧!你們會明白的。

    A:Thank you.

    謝謝你。

    B:Thank you.

    謝謝。

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